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		<title>By: Sports Photography Books &#124; The Blue Pixel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sports Photography Books &#124; The Blue Pixel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 3 Tips For Publishing a Photobook &#124; HEY MIKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>3 Tips For Publishing a Photobook &#124; HEY MIKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the course of the project, more than 50 photo professionals and publishers wrote posts on their own blogs about where they saw photobooks heading. I read them all, organizing them and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Plattner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plattner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have authored/edited/published 8 different titles in the past two years. 

Having also written two traditional photo books (1983 and 1999), I think the future of digital photobooks is tremendous, and I would expect to become simpler and the quality to improve continuously. 

To be sure, digital photo books do have limitations. For black and white photos, there is no true duotone or tri-tone capability. The coating options are somewhat limited. You can&#039;t stand out at the press and implore a talented pressman to pull out the stops, remake a plate, repack a blanket, etc. 

The environmental implications of doing one-off digital books are tremendous. As an offset printer, I know from direct experience that the cost to produce a single, offset-printed, 11x13&quot; oblong case-bound and sewn book with dustjacket on good 100# silk stock is--about $12,000 in the US, or perhaps $6,000-$7,000 overseas. The same specs, printed on an Indigo (though not Smythe-sewn of course), is roughly $80 to $90. That says it all. 

If the digital photo book print world is going to grow and satisfy more sophisticated consumers, it will have to: over far better design software comparable to InDesign, but far easier for a typical user to employ. In-line case binding is coming on line, which is great, but it will need to incorporate true Smythe-sewing and much better paper choices, fabric options, and endsheets. Sites like blurb.com are great in many ways, but their design and spellcheck software is mediocre, to put it nicely.

Much simpler, cost-effective color calibration tools and techniques are needed to satisfy consumers. Unless you are  up to speed in this area, you are going to be disappointed by the difference between what your monitor displays, and what arrives in a printed book in your mailbox. Presses need to deliver much better results--more ink, more saturation, more depth as well as spot coatings. And they need to deliver it consistently. I get tired of hearing about different sites that supposedly offer great color consistency across multi-plant manufacturing platforms. I have received too many lousy digital print jobs--blotchy black backgrounds, poor gradations, mostly because no one is watching, it&#039;s mass manufacturing, and the standards aren&#039;t what they should be.

I could go on, but I do think the future is bright, and I hope quality will improve substantially along with the range of services and materials being offered. It&#039;s all changing quickly. And last but not least, as good as digital may become, I wonder whether it will ever equal the finest offset and gravure print quality in photo books back in the day--Max Yavno&#039;s book for U. California press, from the mid-70&#039;s, printed by Gardner Fulmer in LA. Or some of the best work printed by Meriden Gravure in the 70&#039;s and a handful of others who really bridged the technical side of offset printing with real artistry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have authored/edited/published 8 different titles in the past two years. </p>
<p>Having also written two traditional photo books (1983 and 1999), I think the future of digital photobooks is tremendous, and I would expect to become simpler and the quality to improve continuously. </p>
<p>To be sure, digital photo books do have limitations. For black and white photos, there is no true duotone or tri-tone capability. The coating options are somewhat limited. You can&#8217;t stand out at the press and implore a talented pressman to pull out the stops, remake a plate, repack a blanket, etc. </p>
<p>The environmental implications of doing one-off digital books are tremendous. As an offset printer, I know from direct experience that the cost to produce a single, offset-printed, 11&#215;13&#8243; oblong case-bound and sewn book with dustjacket on good 100# silk stock is&#8211;about $12,000 in the US, or perhaps $6,000-$7,000 overseas. The same specs, printed on an Indigo (though not Smythe-sewn of course), is roughly $80 to $90. That says it all. </p>
<p>If the digital photo book print world is going to grow and satisfy more sophisticated consumers, it will have to: over far better design software comparable to InDesign, but far easier for a typical user to employ. In-line case binding is coming on line, which is great, but it will need to incorporate true Smythe-sewing and much better paper choices, fabric options, and endsheets. Sites like blurb.com are great in many ways, but their design and spellcheck software is mediocre, to put it nicely.</p>
<p>Much simpler, cost-effective color calibration tools and techniques are needed to satisfy consumers. Unless you are  up to speed in this area, you are going to be disappointed by the difference between what your monitor displays, and what arrives in a printed book in your mailbox. Presses need to deliver much better results&#8211;more ink, more saturation, more depth as well as spot coatings. And they need to deliver it consistently. I get tired of hearing about different sites that supposedly offer great color consistency across multi-plant manufacturing platforms. I have received too many lousy digital print jobs&#8211;blotchy black backgrounds, poor gradations, mostly because no one is watching, it&#8217;s mass manufacturing, and the standards aren&#8217;t what they should be.</p>
<p>I could go on, but I do think the future is bright, and I hope quality will improve substantially along with the range of services and materials being offered. It&#8217;s all changing quickly. And last but not least, as good as digital may become, I wonder whether it will ever equal the finest offset and gravure print quality in photo books back in the day&#8211;Max Yavno&#8217;s book for U. California press, from the mid-70&#8217;s, printed by Gardner Fulmer in LA. Or some of the best work printed by Meriden Gravure in the 70&#8217;s and a handful of others who really bridged the technical side of offset printing with real artistry.</p>
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		<title>By: harlan erskine * photography/blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; First art photography tweetchat: The Future of the Photobook.</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlan erskine * photography/blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; First art photography tweetchat: The Future of the Photobook.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] evening, December 15th, I&#8217;ll be moderating and chatting with Todd Walker for a chat about the future of the photobook. We&#8217;ll be online to talk the future of the photobook from 9-10 pm Eastern / 6-7 pm [...]</description>
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		<title>By: POSI+TIVE MAGAZINE &#62; Reportage &#62; Prison Photography</title>
		<link>http://blog.livebooks.com/2009/12/want-to-be-part-of-our-new-crowd-sourced-blog-post-tell-us-what-you-think-about-the-future-of-photobooks/comment-page-2/#comment-13129</link>
		<dc:creator>POSI+TIVE MAGAZINE &#62; Reportage &#62; Prison Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hopefully it will have repercussions further afield. If we can replicate some of the success of the The Future of Photobooks crowd-sourced discussion then we’ll be very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gallery802</title>
		<link>http://blog.livebooks.com/2009/12/want-to-be-part-of-our-new-crowd-sourced-blog-post-tell-us-what-you-think-about-the-future-of-photobooks/comment-page-2/#comment-12399</link>
		<dc:creator>gallery802</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks For the post......i am agree ...great share....i have read your blog and i saw that i have learn t so many things from your article....it is very very interesting and weighted..thanks </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks For the post&#8230;&#8230;i am agree &#8230;great share&#8230;.i have read your blog and i saw that i have learn t so many things from your article&#8230;.it is very very interesting and weighted..thanks</p>
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		<title>By: The Future of Photobooks? &#171; The Visual Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future of Photobooks? &#171; The Visual Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ensuing discussion that is being posted on LiveBooks by Miki Johnson with Andy here, regarding what do you think photobooks will look like in 10 years. Essentially this a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Instead of focusing on the image, focus on everything around the image. &#124; Taylor Davidson (@tdavidson)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instead of focusing on the image, focus on everything around the image. &#124; Taylor Davidson (@tdavidson)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Examples include Jeremy Cowart&#8217;s Help-Portrait, Chase Jarvis&#8217;s live events, Robert Fogarty&#8217;s Dear New Orleans, and Flak Photo and liveBooks&#8217;s crowd-sourced conversation about the future of photobooks. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only will there be nothing like an iphone, with which the intro of the IPad is already over, the way we capture-create imagery, do business, live, will be different.  
 
Remember how long there have been credit cards? 54 years internationally. 
Credit default swaps? Really just 23 years. 
The internet? Effectively 10-15 years. 
 
After we past y2k before 911 would you think we&#039;d end up here? 
That is 10 years. 
 
So photos which photographers shoot thousands tens of thousands a year will depend of relevancy. Will here be one world market, niche markets inside that, local markets?  
 
How will the time of the photographer be valued? By capturing the fleeting moment that encapsulates the time? By coming up with some dreamy pitch? Will there be other revenue streams? Will the backlog and availability of photos of all sort, at high quality, be so overwhelming that Corbis holding the past, will hold the bag? Or will history be eradicated because of our lust for mindless momentarism, technology and involvement in learning to use the new features of technology such as rules of routine sequenced hand gestures on interface planes for IPad type camera exposure and menu? The iphone except for its portability and hence easier evasion from theft has been replaced in 3 years. With the deal they made with att I give it 6 months before it is ubiquitous as iphone and essential as a photobook. Carry aways you never know when you&#039;ll need how many. You have to carry camera, no? That is the short run. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only will there be nothing like an iphone, with which the intro of the IPad is already over, the way we capture-create imagery, do business, live, will be different.  </p>
<p>Remember how long there have been credit cards? 54 years internationally.<br />
Credit default swaps? Really just 23 years.<br />
The internet? Effectively 10-15 years. </p>
<p>After we past y2k before 911 would you think we&#039;d end up here?<br />
That is 10 years. </p>
<p>So photos which photographers shoot thousands tens of thousands a year will depend of relevancy. Will here be one world market, niche markets inside that, local markets?  </p>
<p>How will the time of the photographer be valued? By capturing the fleeting moment that encapsulates the time? By coming up with some dreamy pitch? Will there be other revenue streams? Will the backlog and availability of photos of all sort, at high quality, be so overwhelming that Corbis holding the past, will hold the bag? Or will history be eradicated because of our lust for mindless momentarism, technology and involvement in learning to use the new features of technology such as rules of routine sequenced hand gestures on interface planes for IPad type camera exposure and menu? The iphone except for its portability and hence easier evasion from theft has been replaced in 3 years. With the deal they made with att I give it 6 months before it is ubiquitous as iphone and essential as a photobook. Carry aways you never know when you&#039;ll need how many. You have to carry camera, no? That is the short run.</p>
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		<title>By: The Future of Photobooks &#124; Lassal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Future of Photobooks &#124; Lassal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in photobooks and wondering about what their future might look like, you might want to go over to LiveBooks to check on the various comments collected there concerning this [...]</description>
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